We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. Look out for inexperience. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. They were super rich! The light white washing will give you the raw look. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . It is slightly better than a oil base polyurethane system. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. That's how building law works. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Thanks again! Yes, thsts bleached and toned oak with a matte finish. You have NOT hired installer yet! are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? I havent figured out if Im going to use any window coverings yet. More great information. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). I've read mixed reviews of the Loba one last thing, Is your parquet the kind with slats/"fingers"? The wood Is white oak from Norway (from Cochrans in Virginia). They were great to work with. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. The only design mistake in the house (IMHO) is this floor - the sample and photos looked so different!). It is a work of art. Please convince me not to settle with maple. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. Let him fix it ONCE. If so what brand and color was used? I absolutely love the floors. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. @HU-6868130 your herringbone looks amazing! Im struggling with the same issue thanks! Then the next day a coat of finish. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. In fact, Im pretty sure the samples were just wound into the builders quote to us for the floors. (Mirror and lighting still not in). He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. Very patient. It was not supportive or helpful. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. My plan was boba natural seal plus 3 coats HD extra matte, but I didnt know about a next final step, please provide detail/product for final sealant step. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. If you do NOT want ORANGEthen stay away from "oil" based finishes or "oil modified". Okay we have decided to go with Bona Traffic HD in extra matte! Here are some of my samples. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. Thank you so much! Classic seal gave a deeper color but I found it to be too yellow. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. And using Bona Traffic HD is a MASSIVE upgrade over Mega. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. @kasmit00 Did you ever find the recipe for your post from last year with the beautiful soft "brown" floors? If you like the look of your raw white oak floors then NaturalSeal is your best bet. NordicSeal is going to give you a white frosting. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. Ryan - where did you purchase your Milesi? WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. That's like painting a master piece with 10 minutes on the clock. Im glad we didnt go darker. That doesn't sound like what you are after. white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? new and it will be white oak common # 1. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. That means a single guy can take his time. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). White oak stain is also famous. He said mitering the edges is a nightmare (if you dont mitre, there is a white edge because the color doesnt go all the way through - at least the marble design I chose). The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? According to WFB's 2020 State of the Industry Contractor Survey Report, in 2019 red oak made up 48% of installed species and white oak made up 32% MaryJane, My white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona. @Abigail Barber Burgum you can just go to their website to find the nearest dealer to you. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. if anyone else has found a reasonable solution, could you pls share what you did and a few pix? The more coats you apply, the lighter it becomes. ! If others have experience with this product would love them to chime in. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? How should I adjust these home plans to save $ or improve the layout? The ClassicSeal will offer a hint of yellow but will not be horrible. It still should not come off. I can reject non-essential cookies by clicking Manage Preferences. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. Absolutely, I can see that. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. And like all things "time is money". I have a small house and should have maximized flow but didn't realize just how much planning that would take at once. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. The other two will give you more color. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Kitchen of the Week: Brick, Wood and Clean White Lines, Kitchen of the Week: A Designer's Budget Wood-and-White Makeover, New This Week: 3 Beautifully Balanced White Kitchens, Kitchen of the Week: White, Wood, Gray and a Backsplash Surprise, 5 Countertops That Look Beautiful in a White Kitchen, Kitchen of the Week: Fans of Traditional Style Go For a Mad Men Look. IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. I put any Quartzite that I have not carried before through vigorous testing before I sell it to my customers as a Quartzite. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. If, youre looking for a small amount. Dark Hardwood Floors vs. Light Hardwood Floors? I didn't choose the Nordic because I thought the white pigment made it look unnatural. so you did one coat of natural and two coats of HD? Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. Thanks so much in advance!! white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. Is this permissible to use on cabinets. The above comments are right. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. LOVE, Blizzard fierce or butter soft, white can highlight shapes, unify a room and perform miracles on the cheap, Its typically the primary color in gardens. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. AhemRight??? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Here are pictures of Bona Natural and Traffic HD on white oak for anyone wondering, Gorgeous! These are the guys who put down 3 coats in one day and then p!ss off. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Yes. They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. Houzz uses cookies and similar technologies to personalise my experience, serve me relevant content, and improve Houzz products and services. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. It did not affect the color. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. Your floors are beautiful. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. We got select I think its 3/4 thick and 7 wide. think it turned out well. Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. Nordic seal is not a easy product to put down, unless you have experience. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. They are light, modern, and show the natural color and variation of the wood. Ahhhh. They are one of my very favorite things in my (soon to be) new house. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Had my red oak floors done in weathered oak and they are still simply too pink. Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. I like it a lot no visible seam at the back of the countertop). And, to be fair to the above poster. But that's all it does. Thank you. Matte looks a bit dull. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. Our cabinet maker hasn't been able to match what we are hoping for. Thanks so very much Shannon. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. There is no haze and the floors look very pretty, natural in color with a light sheen. Otherwise time will turn the white oak yellow regardless of how it looks when freshly finished. 1 coat seal and 2 coats finish. The coating should not come up. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. . And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. It is a way for everyone to see how easy it is to misunderstand posts. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. The "real" professional-grade products view DuraSeal/Minwax (owned by the same company) to be 'DIY' level products. what made you decide to go with natural. Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. I'd say the Rubio Smoke 5% was warmer, more golden, while the Unico Smoke was a cooler wheat, but they were very very close. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. How are things holding up a ~year later? I settled on something I didnt love and it turned out it was one of the most expensive ones. They are still drying and look darker in the photos than they do in person FYI. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? We love our floors! A gallon of Bona Traffic HD = $180 - $200. I have seen plenty of samples of his work. Ive had 5 character grade white oak installed. @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. I'd love to know what finishes you ended up selecting as well. Mega turns yellow. Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? Intense seal will cast yellowing. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. For someone to get this done 'properly' takes training. WebBona NordicSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer that is formulated to provide a green alternative to a whitewashed floor without the use of caustic materials such as bleach. It wasnt 3 coats in one day. Gravity works. Here are some of my samples. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. I know I've gone on for a while. Maybe I will just buy new bathrobes for me and DH instead. I think we can make Traffic HD work in our budget if we hold off on a few things and I can convince my husband. That's not what was happening. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. My cabinets are a true white (forgot name of paint) and all of the Dekton with a white background was too gray. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Think NCAA and NBA courts. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. I'm actually impressed he is putting up with me and my ideas - lol. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. View a wide selection of Rugs and other great items on KSL Classifieds. I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information Is that really that difficult? Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? Don't test just with sealer. It was one coat of seal. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. Even Van Gogh couldn't do that! Sigh. He just did coat #2, not sure how much he used. My fear was that a lower quality finish would yellow or amber the wood. Dry finish. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. WebBona AB is a family-owned, sustainably-driven company that supplies products for installing, renovating, maintaining and restoring premium floors. Nice when a risk pays off . One other question. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Ill post more photos- the site only lets me post one at a time. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. The finish guy said he put on 1.5 gal on the first coat of TrafficHD. It may not be the same price you would get if you buy it yourself from Cochrans. Or Loba 2K + their stain lineyou get the idea. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Choosing finish on white oak floor. ), Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Thank you for your input. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. Those are STUNNING! I adore the light color, but every little water spot shows, or a splash of spilled coffee. I bought the cleaning spay and renew oil for the cabinets. WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. Thank you! We got our hardwood lumber from a lumber mill in Berryville, VA. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. Web108K views 6 years ago. It shouldn't if it's in good shape, but don't know what shape it's in, so figure i'd warn you. The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. :), Absolutely gorgeous. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! Ill try to get a better photo next time I go to the house (were still not in). Of course, none of this is more than 3 foot square sampleand not my kitchen floor, but we are hopeful that we have an answer.
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