Aug 29, 2019 #4 dakink Aug 31, 2009 Milwaukee area The AVRI models from the early 00's came with a capacitor that modernised the circuit. The Vinteras are essentially the Mexican counterpart to the American Original Series, whereas the US version of the Player would be the American Pro series. More comfortable open chords for big hands, More comfortable at higher frets for small hands, More curved fretboard helpful to play chords without muting strings, Great if you like to hang your thumb over the fretboard, Beautiful cleans and good tone versatility, More comfortable open chords for small hands, More comfortable at higher frets for big hands, Simple vibratos without too much maintenance, Flatter fretboard makes it easier to play single notes and bend, Fender Vintage Style 50s Single-Coil Hot Tele, You'll feel the fretboard when pressing down the strings, Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster, Copyright 2023 FindMyGuitar.com | All Rights Reserved. Last edited: Jun 6, 2020 Bladesg Funk Meister Silver Member Oct 31, 2013 4,073 I am returning the strat players series and probably will try the tele 70s vintera model. Whats for sure is that both of these ranges offer players great value for money, and theyre both built really well these things will last! When it comes to build quality, we like to take into account everything used to build the guitar. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a28d9f93ce7f25d This is what's used for most music genres. American Original 70's Tele Custom neck finish. Most guitar fret wire is made of nickel silver. To me, a less expensive bolt neck guitar, makes more sense. For the OP: Do you see the problem with your suspected responces? Vintera or American Performer ? I would think that Richard Blenkinsop, The author of of the above article, could answer this. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster has an SS configuration while the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster has SSS pickups. You won't be as likely to mute the strings, especially if you have big hands. They let you perform the intense vibrato effects that would be impossible with a fixed bridge. You can swap strings easily. For me the fretboard radius is a deal breaker but otherwise it looks very similar to the American Original I have. So for me it's versatility vs. having "that sound.". The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster's brige is a Fixed. Super stoked! It's the most common and cheapest way to build a guitar. If youre going for a traditional sound I find the black star falls short. Sep 5, 2019. But if you can't or want a second opinion on it, we can still take a look at each of the important measurements of the guitar for you. Not everyone is going to bothered about nailing that vintage tone or vibe, and thats fine the Player series will see you right. SS is the classic Telecaster configuration. I'd like to buy the American original Strat but I actually like more the sound of the Vintera 50's Strat, in this video: Why dont you have an eye out for a used Classic Series 50s lacquer? They have a modern 9.5" fretboard radius rather than the 7.25" on the vintera, medium jumbo frets vs vintage tall on the vintera, mustang style bridge like the AO had rather than the jazzmaster bridge on the Vintera. I pulled the trigger on an AO60s! Cheers. This way, we can predict how easy a guitar is to play, or how different it will feel compared to the other. However, some people still prefer thicker necks for a better grip, especially if they have big hands. If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field FIRST, Then ask the community. It's a simple bridge that is very beginner-friendly since it doesn't require any set-up. Main Stratocaster Guitar Discussion Forum. Then, we'll take a look at the electronics to determine the versatility and sound quality of each instrument. Most Vintera Modified models have different pickups theyre still based on whatever decade youre going for, but will generally have more output, meaning you wont have to drive the amp as much to get them to distort. I personally bought my Tele about a year ago and was in this same position and went for a brand new Japanese one. American Standards are discontinued and have modern Fender specs. Cheers. It replaced a 2008 Fender American Special and a 2009 US Strat. We plugged both the Vintera 50's Stratocaster and the Fender American Original 50's Stratocaster straight into a Fender Blues Junior. Fender American Original 50La Bella 760FS Flatwounds(foam muted)Fender Vintera Precision Bass 50La Bella 760FL Flatwounds(foam muted)Fender American Original. Tremolo bridges give you more versatility than fixed bridges. Everyone has a different hand size, and that's why it's recommended to try a guitar before buying, even if others tell you that it's comfortable to play. Youll notice as well that the 50s models have single-ply scratchplates, as they did back then its not a huge difference, but its a nice touch that adds to whole vintage aesthetic of these guitars. On the other hand, SSS is perfect for players who like to play clean. However, we can know whether a guitar favors small or large hands just by knowing its exact measurements. It's slightly longer than the typical 24.75'' size found in Les Pauls, and it's one of the main reasons why Stratocasters have such a bright sound in general. I've been very impressed with the build quality of my Vintera, and I say that as somebody who cant stand poor craftsmanship, fret buzz, sharp fret ends, etc. We'll earn a small fee if you purchase after clicking. I find that the player-grade Fenders are excellent for that-- playing. I'll modify a less expensive guitar. Winner: Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster. Theyve got player-friendly features, theyre available in quite a few different finishes (modern and classic), but theyre still quintessentially Fender. But the Pure Vintage pickups in the American Original blow the Vintera pups out of the water. Thanks for visiting. Picked up this 65 classic mustang today! The sound is slightly higher output than what Ive heard of vintage reissue Tele pickups (though not as much as my G&L ASAT Classic) and very versatile. I'd like to buy the American original Strat but I actually like . Fender Stratocasters: American Performer vs. Vintera '60s ModifiedIt's that time again! We'll always show you the best prices we find regardless of the compensation we receive. But, I haven't played either. It's usually thick, which is why some people with big hands like it. Finish wise the 50s had the poly finish on the regular model, and an upgraded lacquer finish available. 15,804 views Jun 16, 2020 145 Dislike Share Save Oli Royer 2.05K subscribers Watch Part 2 -. Bear in mind that the guitar will feel different depending on your hand size and play style. Thanks! Thanks for the input. You might notice however, that the Vinteras are more expensive, so what are the differences between these two series to justify the price gap? They don't come with that dark circuit for the same reason the strat has the 5 way. If you got small hands, none of these guitars will make a big difference when it comes to comfortability. Of course pups can be replaced but the American Original is the first guitar Ive ever had where I cant imagine going anywhere near the pups and wiring. 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Im really a fan of the daphne blue colour on this guitar. However, some of them do have advantages over the others. Its not just the pickups; everything about the Vinteras is as close to a vintage Fender as you can get, for less than American Original kind of money. Vintera is 0.870 -> 0.975 "V" shape so the difference is not huge on paper certainly but probably noticeable at the nut end. If I could replace all my necks with this neck I would. AboutPressCopyrightContact. The Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster is built in Mexico while the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster is made in United States. As an Amazon Associate site we earn from qualifying purchases. JavaScript is disabled. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. American Original 50s stratocaster in White Blonde! In this case, the Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster's fingerboard radius is smaller, which means it's more curved than the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster's. This neck is joined to the body by 4 bolts that you can simply unscrew. On the other hand, the Original will have a thicker U shape neck which IMO is the best Tele neck if you want a full size neck. The Vintera 'Modified' series will have the more modern features like a 9.5 fretboard radius, two point tremolo and modern switching options if you prefer that to vintage specs. Vintera vs American original. TDPRI, short for Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue, is the leading online community and marketplace for Telecaster guitars. The Fender American Professional II Stratocaster has Fender Standard Die-cast tuners, Fender V-Mod II Single-coil pickups, and Coil-tapping (HSS), Neck pickup blend (SSS) electronics. This is also referred to as ''baseball neck'' because of its shape. The scale length is one of the things that influences playability the most. If youre not too bothered about nailing a vintage sound, and you just want a good, general Strat tone with all of its chime, glassiness, and versatility, then you could find your match with the Player. Performance & security by Cloudflare. There was a lot of info available on the Fender forums before they were closed down. Maple is one of the most popular necks for good reasons. I don't have experience with the Vintera Modified but I do have the AO60s Tele. The Mods usually have some sort of extra pickup configuration as well that give you a wider range of sounds from just one guitar. - YouTube 0:00 / 30:01 Classic Vibe vs Vintera vs Original - a Vintage Strat Shootout! Is that some kind of boutique make ? The AVII's are built to the exact specs as they were made at the time - even down to the screws which were flat head on the tele as opposed to phillips screws (phillips screws didn't exist in 51). You must log in or register to reply here. Press J to jump to the feed. Not sure what the finish is on the Vintera though. What was the old Mexican Standard became the Fender Player, and more recently, they discontinued the Classic Player, Baja and Road Worn models and released the Vintera series. Theyre fairly thin, but not too much theyre fairly standard and very inoffensive theyre designed to be comfortable for any sort of player. They are substantially richer in harmonic content and timbre to an astonishing degree; its real black magic. NO editing is done to misrepresent how the featured gear sounds in any way.I also use gear in my videos that I originally received through review deals with the companies. I've been looking at getting a tele for while. The Vintera series on the other hand, is a direct throwback to the 50s, 60s and 70s. However, this also means that there will be more separation between frets, which can make it more difficult to play. When I look back on things I've bought, ( I have only one guitar) I never wish I had gotten the cheaper version. Its worth pointing out that the finishes on offer also differ. The AVII has a nicer finish (nitro over poly sealer, compared to thick poly) and will have better setup / quality control (which can be important especially if you dont do your own setups). It's much heftier than the modern C. I also have an AO '60s Jazzmaster with a 9.5" neck, which I love. Any variation can completely change how comfortable a guitar feels in your hands. Nowadays, guitars made in other countries can beat some of the ones made in the US, but most of the time, this country offers the best you can get. This editing, mostly light EQ and compression, is intended to give you the most accurate representation of how the featured gear actually sounds. A guitar made in this country is supposed to have world-class quality control. Make no mistake, youll get beautiful, glassy cleans out of these, and youll find that they sound great overdriven too. Not only do the Fender Player and Vintera guitars sound different, but theyve got different features too. The United States is considered one of the best electric guitar manufacturers in the world. Some guitars offer you more ways to explore your creativity than others. More blues and classic rock style mostly and prefer the AMerican sound. If you want your guitar to stay in tune and sound good, you need a well cut nut. Compared to the average 43mm nut width, these guitars will feel better in the hands of people with small hands. It might also give more sustain since it doesn't have complex moving parts that make the strings lose vibration. Find out their differences in sound, playability, build quality and value. Hey there, I've been looking everywhere for the differences between the American Original Jazzmaster and the Vintera Jazzmaster, but my brain isn't working today, hahah. Messages. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. And stop by the forum to join in on the conversation. This includes materials, hardware and the quality control expected depending on the country where it was built. Are there still fret edge issues with the vinteras? Obviously a Tele pickup sounds different to a Strat pickup, but theyre all made using the same magnets and wiring. All of the gain came. Andertons Music Co 823K. I don't know if these are the same. All of the gain came from the amp with an SM57 in front of it to try and make it as fair as possible.Check out the guitars used in this video at Bonners Music - https://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/fender-vintera-50s-strat-sea-foam-green-guitar.irhttps://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/fender-american-original-50s-strat-maple-aztec-gold-guitar.irFender Vintera 50's Stratocaster vs Fender American Original 50's Strat, which do you prefer? The Vintera is an awesome guitar and the neck is simply incredible it's a baby-bear-"just right" chunky U shape. I bet you will probably see the same qualitative superiority in the AVII. Fender American Original vs Vintera 60s Strat Part 1 - Can A Mex Beat A USA? If the AO neck is anything like the AV '64, you'll be just fine, although the AV has a 7.25 radius. The Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster gives you 5 switch options while the Fender Vintera Road Worn 50s Telecaster gives you 3. #6. The main difference in a nutshell, is that the Player series is a modern take on Fenders classic guitars, whereas the Vintera series offers players authentic, period-correct style guitars, based on their golden era decades: the 50s, 60s and 70s. The main differences between the Fender Road Worn and American Standard series are that the former is made in Mexico, while the latter in the USA. The AV2 is made in America, by the same people making the Vintera. In keeping with the vintage vibe, the Vinteras are only available in finishes that were around at the time; personally, I love all the pastel finishes from the 50s Sonic Blue, Fiesta Red, Seafoam Green etc theyre all in there in the Vintera range. With the AO, you will get a nice nitro finish, too. Just wanna be sure as I have an American original transferring to my guitar shop, and wanna be able to tell the difference in case they stiff me and sell me a Vintera, without me knowing. If you want a vintage style guitar, with all its old-school mojo, but with a bit of extra spice, then one of the Modified Vinteras could be for you. No single neck shape is better than others. 2022 Reidys Home of Music. I traded both away. The Fender Vintera 60s Stratocaster Modified is made in Mexico, has a solid alder body, a bolt-on Modern "C" maple neck, pau ferro fingerboard, and SSS pickups. The definition you get between notes and the crispiness is unmatched by most other configurations. Winner: Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster. 103. Strat Talk is the leading online community and marketplace for Stratocaster guitars. This allows you to replace the neck or take it off for travel. AV2 are US build, and period accurate down to the last detail - paint, hardware, neck profiles, cases, etc. Even though they say it's because of its balanced tone with an emphasis in the upper midrange, it probably is because it isn't too expensive, and it's also pretty lightweightmore than Mahogany. Thanks for the advice. The nut width will affect the separation between strings at the nut. The radius of the fingerboard is a measure of how curved the neck of the guitar actually is when looking at it from bridge to nut. On the other hand, the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster's is a Tremolo. Looks like fretboard radius, pickups and country of origin are the biggest differences. . It is a strong wood that is relatively cheap to make and looks beautiful. They are both 50's spec, both with maple boards, but the Vintera is made in Mexico and the American Original is made in America and costs almost double the price of the Vintera, so it was interesting to see and hear the differences!We plugged both the Vintera 50's Stratocaster and the Fender American Original 50's Stratocaster straight into a Fender Blues Junior. I'm looking at either a vintera 1950s telecaster vs the 1951 american vintage II telecaster OR at the 1977 telecaster pro deluxe/custom also between vintera vs america vintage 2. BUT they might still not be the right guitar for you. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information. There have been lots of complaints of rough frets and intonation problems in the Player Jags. Its one of my favourite guitars and a real workhorse. This website is using a security service to protect itself from online attacks. everyone's recommending 11s. I liked the 50s Mod better FWIW when I A/B'ed but I do confess I fell in love with the Vintera first. hi all, looking to buy either a vintera or AV2 guitar, but having trouble really finding any differences. Thanks all. IME the Vintera have that woody, P Bass tone and the Pro is just a bit more tight and modern sounding. If you don't want to overpay for a wellp-built instrument, a guitar built in this country by a good brand always offers good value for the money. After taking into account the scale length, nut width, neck profile and fretboard radius, we can conclude that both guitars in this comparison favor large hands . JavaScript is disabled. I've also listed Amazon Affiliate links to my gear further down.Listen: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6RLQFre2Qp5T454mFR5Ol4Download: https://jackfossett.bandcamp.com/Tip Jar: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=GGZDWWJN7P7CNWebpage: https://www.jackfossett.comAlso, if you're interested in the gear I use, you can find some of it on Amazon. We have a new #FocusOnSound review video for you, and today's subject. The bridge pickup is set up as it was in 51, so it's a dark circuit that produces a really bassy tone. The Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster, on the other hand, has a V neck. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I'm looking for a 50's style maple board Stratocaster. You'll probably never need a pickup upgrade. I'd slaughter my entire family for a AO60s. Youll find that the necks on the 50s models will be pretty thick; especially on the Telecaster, so if you dont get on with chunky neck profiles, then thats definitely something to consider. Fender Vintera '50s Telecaster Modified - Daphne Blue Sweetwater Sound $1749.99 Fender American Acoustasonic Telecaster - Matte Black Sweetwater Sound $2349.99 Fender Britt Daniel Telecaster Thinline - Amarillo Gold Sweetwater Sound $1799.99 Fender Joe Strummer Road Worn Telecaster Sweetwater Sound $2699.99 Here's the diagram comparing all the pickup combinations you can get with both guitars: When evaluating versatility, we also take into consideration bridge and neck joint type, number of frets, switch options, amount of pickups and more. My AO60's Tele measures 0.84" thick at the 1st fret and 0.985" at the 12th fret. On the other hand, the Fender American Original 50s Stratocaster comes with a Bone nut. The Fender Player series represents 60-70 years worth of innovation theyre modern versions of the classic guitars, but they retain the character of what made them so iconic. All the guitars and basses in the Fender Player series have Modern C neck profiles these are like a C-shape, but flattened a bit. Its the best Fender production Telecaster just now (imho). Makes bending and chording up high more comfortable. Hard to explain. Both the Player and Vintera ranges are made in their Mexican factory, and they both consist of the classic Fender designs Strat, Tele, Jazzmaster, Jaguar, P-Bass and Jazz Bass, amongst a few others. Playing into a Fender Tone Master Super Reverb and using a Keeley Red Dirt for my overdrive pedal. Press J to jump to the feed.