Enjoyed reading all the above comments, all valid points, but with all the back and forth opinions, I feel like I've been watching a tennis match. I will check the duct for cracks and insulation and if I want to get cheaper, I'll look into the Sun. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! It costs me about $9.00 per day to heat my house with Propane. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. About the same. The real way to reduce energy costs is to minimize the amount of energy lost by your house. Christo T 575 subscribers Subscribe 87K views 5 years ago How to change the Thermostat settings on Bradford. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. [1], Burkett had received publicity in 2000, after making and then retracting a claim that he had been transferred to Panama for refusing "to falsify personnel records of Governor Bush",[2] and in February 2004, when he claimed to have knowledge of "scrubbing" of Bush's TexANG records. Now, that may seem cold to some of you, but no other heater identical to this one is going to do any better and if they are not this safe, you would have to have your central heat on. Because it works and dose save money especially if you have bad heating in your house. Heat pump water heaters (HPWHs) operate in an entirely different way. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. It can be a $20 heater from Walmart or a $400 Eden Pure. I told customer services I wanted my money refunded and was told NO WAY you have had your heater over the 60 days satisfaction guarantee.. What the h..l are they talking about I have a 5 yr warranty. Standing by it, it doesn't really seem like it is doing much work, but, judging from our reduced power bills, it is doing exactly what these units are claimed to do. Just picked one from trash. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. After a few weeks it was obvious that this heater is no more efficient than one I can buy mail-order or at Costco for $ 30.00-60,00, so I sent it back at my expense. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. [1] ", They would be dedicated to making sure the expectations of an ongoing pleasant experience that is designed into the commercial would be realized to the end of product life. So all the rest is just hype , Shame on Bob Vella. To calculate an approximate heater size for an outdoor pool, follow these steps: Determine your desired pool temperature. Electric heating is a process in which electrical energy is converted directly to heat energy at around 100% efficiency, [contradictory] using rather cheap devices. Investigations into his military service led to the Killian documents controversy. EdenPUREs manufacturer makes several claims about its heater. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? My electric bill actually increased. So, for this is is great. Have i used them. Perrysburg, Ohio and go home with your product the same day. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Again, it was ZONE heating and with a heat pump, like that was going to save me money. I don't know about most of you, but in the coldest 3 months of the year here, my bill runs over $500. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on February 19, 2019: This article was published a few years back when EdenPURE advertised their heaters at $400. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) Justia Patents Bill Burkett Inventions, Patents and Patent Applications. Buyer beware ! less per month power bill. I am lucky to have a couple of working ones, they do help, but after reading all the electric experts and cost of cheaper 1500w heaters, I must sadly say, I have been scamed. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. up. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. Energy savings will be the same either way. Nice flat spot for debris. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. The infrared light (heat) is then reflected back into the home. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. I have no complaints. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. FACT: Nonsense. Also the heat is much nicer than baseboard heat- it feels warm and it stays comfortable. The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. The problem with this, of course, is that you are not saving money by heating the house more efficiently. sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. The newer model 1000XL is still$59.00. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). It claims 1000 s f for the gen 4 and it will do that just as well as most heaters. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. In looking into getting an fared heater, I did a lot of research. [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). As the . Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. The EdenPure heater uses 1500 Watts. ft house that you keep at 70 degrees during the winter. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. William W. Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. It will cost more. Realize that Villa talks about all of the heat loss from the furnace ductwork, then tells you to turn the rest of your house down to 65deg (using this same furnace he rails about)and the EP will keep you toasty, ROFL. I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? Only if you needed this type Of heater. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. Cellular shades can save you as much as 20% on your energy bill, too. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. We have unplugged our Eden Pure and have decided to think of this as a 300.00 back up heat source in case our gas furnace takes a dump. Installing a water heater replacement costs between $845 and $1,698, or an average of $1,271, for a tank-based unit and labor. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? Otherwise, save yourself about $400 and pick one up from Lowe's. Construction Company. Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. 4) Contrary to this article and many of its posts, the reason why infrared heaters have been so successful is not because of slick marketingprimarily it has been word of mouth. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. This can be an effective do-it-yourself project, just be careful doing so, or get someone experienced to help you. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. 1st Lt. George W. Bush in uniform. Bought one of the USA made heaters last year and found the heater to be less effective than any of the other electric heaters I have used in the past. That is the real savings. Storage heaters work by storing heat generated by cheap night-time electricity and releasing this heat during the day Most storage heaters are wall-mounted and look a bit like radiators. You should use your own judgement and take some care to buy the right product for you. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. My wife and I have found that our electric and gas power bills have gone down by more than half, each (we have a gas furnace) since we started using our Life Smart brand infrared heater. Like EdenPure it uses the same technology, 'infrared quartz tube + PTC'.this is what gives the heaters the longevity. We have provided heating and air conditioning services to residential and commercial homeowners since 1981. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. By not heating the unoccupied rooms of your home, you will cut your heating bill. You do the math. Build a mounting box out of 2 x 4 lumber and 3/4-inch plywood that will allow you to mount the new tankless water heater about four inches out from the wall. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. That was going to be a total of 5-6 zones. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. Im just another sucker. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. Stay warm everyone!! Ok Bob Yila lets stand behind your product and give me my money back now Do a cost comparison yourself. It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. I used the Gen3 1000 last winter and it kept our living area comfortable. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. It was fantastic and a threw a lot more heat than the electric oil radiator type. I am glad i took the time to read it and all the interesting and informative comments. Now, if you doubt that I read that or that it can be true, the next one I copied and pasted for the guy who said 1500 watts is 1500 watts and will put out the same. Let me easily explain. the other heater 1 year old the heater tube burned out' I saved $200.00 in heating bills , but spent 300.00 more on electricity. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. Cubic Feet/Minute is the best measure. Hogwash. You still need them. I also agree with your opinion on products sold by celebrities. etc. Bob Villa uses the same deceptive wording as the company. Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. Thanks. Here is a great explanation of what you should look for (that and a 'wide mouth'): http://www.biophysicscenter.com/infrared-heaters.h Hope this helps!! The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 There is no combustion taking place in any electric heater, and no oxygen is being used. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 12, 2011: Cold in Mass, you can only run your heater 1 1/2 hours at .17 a kilowatt, not all night. I have gas heat but use this at night to warm my bedroom, rather than raise the thermostat to heat the whole house. Some people still can't get it. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!)